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Post by voltage on Sept 2, 2006 20:22:23 GMT -5
Why are there so many people in New Orleans demanding Government money, spending it away and still complaining that theyre lives were ruined? What about Mississippi? Why havent we heard them screaming Fema was too late? Are we trying to be a little to dependant on our government? Didnt we create this country where the people are stronger and over their government?
I dont agree with the movie, but the quote is good.
People shouldn't be afraid of their government, Governments should be afraid of their people. -V for Vendetta 2005
I think New Orleans is the perfect example of a disgusting life style that got smashed by disaster and instead of cleaning up their own lives, they scream government and get on all the tv networks. Maybe we are approaching a terrible place, where the government has total control. and once our freedom is gone, we will realize the damage weve done. So this thread is about two topics, the situation of New Orleans, and the Consequences of a Socialist government. Your thoughts please.
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Post by viper on Sept 2, 2006 23:44:52 GMT -5
I live in Louisiana and my sister worked at one of the releif shelter's and I did what a 14 year old could do wich is not much lol. Anyways those people over in New Orleans are nothing but give me give me give me...
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Post by Aaron on Sept 3, 2006 0:27:49 GMT -5
Why are there so many people in New Orleans demanding Government money, spending it away and still complaining that theyre lives were ruined? What about Mississippi? Why havent we heard them screaming Fema was too late? Are we trying to be a little to dependant on our government? Didnt we create this country where the people are stronger and over their government? I dont agree with the movie, but the quote is good. People shouldn't be afraid of their government, Governments should be afraid of their people. -V for Vendetta 2005 I think New Orleans is the perfect example of a disgusting life style that got smashed by disaster and instead of cleaning up their own lives, they scream government and get on all the tv networks. Maybe we are approaching a terrible place, where the government has total control. and once our freedom is gone, we will realize the damage weve done. So this thread is about two topics, the situation of New Orleans, and the Consequences of a Socialist government. Your thoughts please. You know I'm getting sick and tired of hearing how New Orlean's is a city full of "taker's" and "bad, murder's, and rapist, and problematic people". Especially, when you you'r self wouldn't know what to do if your town wasn't around. If the people you knew and love and were use to going over to a person's house and yet they weren't there. Basically, unless you actually went through what they went through...I wouldn't really generalize. There are ALWAYS bad apples out there. And, guess what? There ALWAYS will BE bad Apples. It's just life. It's no different if it's a white guy, a green person or a hispanic. Or, if the person's from the ghetto or Beverly Hills or whatever. Doesn't matter. There are always people that are give me, give me. I'v lived with two of them. They hate the fact that you have all the nice things...and no matter what you do or say THEY should have it. But, doesn't make me that way or other Huston citizen's.
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Post by voltage on Sept 16, 2006 11:41:41 GMT -5
Why are there so many people in New Orleans demanding Government money, spending it away and still complaining that theyre lives were ruined? What about Mississippi? Why havent we heard them screaming Fema was too late? Are we trying to be a little to dependant on our government? Didnt we create this country where the people are stronger and over their government? I dont agree with the movie, but the quote is good. People shouldn't be afraid of their government, Governments should be afraid of their people. -V for Vendetta 2005 I think New Orleans is the perfect example of a disgusting life style that got smashed by disaster and instead of cleaning up their own lives, they scream government and get on all the tv networks. Maybe we are approaching a terrible place, where the government has total control. and once our freedom is gone, we will realize the damage weve done. So this thread is about two topics, the situation of New Orleans, and the Consequences of a Socialist government. Your thoughts please. You know I'm getting sick and tired of hearing how New Orlean's is a city full of "taker's" and "bad, murder's, and rapist, and problematic people". Especially, when you you'r self wouldn't know what to do if your town wasn't around. If the people you knew and love and were use to going over to a person's house and yet they weren't there. Basically, unless you actually went through what they went through...I wouldn't really generalize. There are ALWAYS bad apples out there. And, guess what? There ALWAYS will BE bad Apples. It's just life. It's no different if it's a white guy, a green person or a hispanic. Or, if the person's from the ghetto or Beverly Hills or whatever. Doesn't matter. There are always people that are give me, give me. I'v lived with two of them. They hate the fact that you have all the nice things...and no matter what you do or say THEY should have it. But, doesn't make me that way or other Huston citizen's. Well i was there 2 weeks before the hurricane hit, and i went down there for 3 days as part of a relief program, so i make my statements base don what i have seen also. I dont think personal disaster is a thing to be taken lightly. I helped people who didnt know where there husbands or wives or parents or children were. I saw the houses in the ninth ward, and the superdome. It was not a good situation, disaster never is. If a tornado destroyed Indiana i wouldnt go to notre dame and wait for a FEMA check. I would try to figure out where my family is first, and if i could not find them without hope of my own safety i would contact relatives. Lets say i didnt have any relatives. I would get out of town, wether i had to walk or run or steal a bicycle. These people are so used to living on welfare that when theyre house was gone they didnt go anywhere. You say thats there home, true. But let me ask you if a tornado or natural disaster hit your home would you really in all honesty hold the government responsible for your loss? Lets not forget that New Orleans was already a risk. Its below sea level. Everyone knew that. Yet when a hurricane hits, we scream that bush broke the levies and that the government failed us and that were all gonna die when you put yourself in that position in the first place. bad apples has nothing to do with it. Im talking about the governor of Louisiana who still hasnt claimed responsibility (democrat). Im talking about the racism remarks flying around. Im talking about the people in Mississippi who havent said a word! Is it because hurricanes hit every year? no. Is it because they are all white? nope. Is it because they dont NEED the government to supply there every need? maybe.
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Post by Aaron on Sept 16, 2006 11:49:30 GMT -5
You know I'm getting sick and tired of hearing how New Orlean's is a city full of "taker's" and "bad, murder's, and rapist, and problematic people". Especially, when you you'r self wouldn't know what to do if your town wasn't around. If the people you knew and love and were use to going over to a person's house and yet they weren't there. Basically, unless you actually went through what they went through...I wouldn't really generalize. There are ALWAYS bad apples out there. And, guess what? There ALWAYS will BE bad Apples. It's just life. It's no different if it's a white guy, a green person or a hispanic. Or, if the person's from the ghetto or Beverly Hills or whatever. Doesn't matter. There are always people that are give me, give me. I'v lived with two of them. They hate the fact that you have all the nice things...and no matter what you do or say THEY should have it. But, doesn't make me that way or other Huston citizen's. Well i was there 2 weeks before the hurricane hit, and i went down there for 3 days as part of a relief program, so i make my statements base don what i have seen also. I dont think personal disaster is a thing to be taken lightly. I helped people who didnt know where there husbands or wives or parents or children were. I saw the houses in the ninth ward, and the superdome. It was not a good situation, disaster never is. If a tornado destroyed Indiana i wouldnt go to notre dame and wait for a FEMA check. I would try to figure out where my family is first, and if i could not find them without hope of my own safety i would contact relatives. Lets say i didnt have any relatives. I would get out of town, wether i had to walk or run or steal a bicycle. These people are so used to living on welfare that when theyre house was gone they didnt go anywhere. You say thats there home, true. But let me ask you if a tornado or natural disaster hit your home would you really in all honesty hold the government responsible for your loss? Lets not forget that New Orleans was already a risk. Its below sea level. Everyone knew that. Yet when a hurricane hits, we scream that bush broke the levies and that the government failed us and that were all gonna die when you put yourself in that position in the first place. bad apples has nothing to do with it. Im talking about the governor of Louisiana who still hasnt claimed responsibility (democrat). Im talking about the racism remarks flying around. Im talking about the people in Mississippi who havent said a word! Is it because hurricanes hit every year? no. Is it because they are all white? nope. Is it because they dont NEED the government to supply there every need? maybe. And you'r point to that New Orlean's was already at risk is what? It's called a PORT! That is why New Orlean's is there...and even if it's not the "Chocolate City" it's still going to exist because there is the only Port on the Mississippi River line. Unless you want to come all the way to Galveston. Which is pretty far and I highly doubt that is going to happen. New Orlean's will always be around mainly because of the fact that it's a Port city..and I don't see it changing. It's been that way since Day One. Actually they stopped and shut down access in and out of the City 7 hours before the deadline. That was reported by Blogger's and was mentioned at one blog which was linked at MSN so I'd say it's a pretty valuable source. So since they shut it down I remember this one lady had posted that she had finally shut everything down. She owned a buisness on the French Quarter's. I wasn't there during the hurricane so can't say for sure but I would go with htem and say that they did shut down the city. That is a good possibility. That and if you are on minimum wage's and also even government assistant you can't go anywhere. Sometimes you'r lucky to just pay the rent. So you'r stuck. Have you actually lived on minimum wage souly? Or government assistance? Is anyone in your life living off of it? I have people and I have lived on minimum wage. I know how hard it is and I know how trying and frustrating it can be. So unless you really have experienced it or had a taste of it through a family/friend you don't know what it's like and can sit on your high horse and shout and rave and rant about this and that.
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Post by voltage on Sept 16, 2006 12:29:24 GMT -5
When did we jump to the minimum wage topic? Im not ranting from my high horse, im being honest. I didnt expect you to explode like that, so forgive me.
The risk of being in new orleans isnt just wether the 7-11 is open. Its your house, your car. Its all below sea level. Even having a car in new orleans during a hurricane is a risk. My point is why attack the government for a natural disater you risked being caught in.
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Post by Aaron on Sept 16, 2006 12:39:50 GMT -5
When did we jump to the minimum wage topic? Im not ranting from my high horse, im being honest. I didnt expect you to explode like that, so forgive me. The risk of being in new orleans isnt just wether the 7-11 is open. Its your house, your car. Its all below sea level. Even having a car in new orleans during a hurricane is a risk. My point is why attack the government for a natural disater you risked. from My understanding the hurricane missed them. And, where it broke was a level 1 or 2. Now the levee's are made to with stand a 3. Yet crumbled at a level 1...2 max. Not a 3. Soooooo hmmmm wuld seem to be Government's mess up. I mean Army Corp. build 'em. So someone in the government jacked up. I mentioned about not being able to get out because A. They shut down the roads HOURS before the actual deadline to get out where to happen. I also mentioned about minimum wages because that is a key factor. Because, if you don't have the money or the places to go outside that city you'r up a creek. I'm also saying that you may not like New Orlean's but that New Orlean's ain't going no where and that their will ALWAYS be a New Orlean's. Because the simple fact that it's a Port City. So someone is ALWAYS going to be there because job's are there. If job's are there and they are pretty much industrial....people are going to live there. Especially, those that can't get the nicer job's and take factory type work.
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Post by Mistress Rell on Sept 16, 2006 12:43:12 GMT -5
Why are there so many people in New Orleans demanding Government money, spending it away and still complaining that theyre lives were ruined? What about Mississippi? Why havent we heard them screaming Fema was too late? Are we trying to be a little to dependant on our government? Didnt we create this country where the people are stronger and over their government? I dont agree with the movie, but the quote is good. People shouldn't be afraid of their government, Governments should be afraid of their people. -V for Vendetta 2005 I think New Orleans is the perfect example of a disgusting life style that got smashed by disaster and instead of cleaning up their own lives, they scream government and get on all the tv networks. Maybe we are approaching a terrible place, where the government has total control. and once our freedom is gone, we will realize the damage weve done. So this thread is about two topics, the situation of New Orleans, and the Consequences of a Socialist government. Your thoughts please. First of all, define "disgusting lifestyle". Second, I read the entire thread and I am absolutly disgusted with the fact that you seen to have no sympathy for the people of Louisiana! That state is one of the poorest in the country and many of them probably couln't afford homeowners insureance! Many of those homes were passed down from generation to generation, and the majority of those people are not on any kind of Social Assistance and have lost everything and have gotten next to no help from the Government! You talk about New Orleans as a risk, then why is it that if a hurricane hits Florida, they seem to bounce back within a few months? It is the Governments responsibility to ensure the safty of all its citizens, not just the ones that vote for them! The Bush Administration dropped the ball big time on this disaster. I can also promise you that if a catagory 5 huricane hit Texas, they'd be back to normal within a few months. Time and time again that administration has proven it's bias towards the American people, and as for a Social Government, France has one, and they haven't lost any of their freedoms. V is for Vendetta is a movie, don't take it to heart.
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Post by Aaron on Sept 16, 2006 12:51:06 GMT -5
Why are there so many people in New Orleans demanding Government money, spending it away and still complaining that theyre lives were ruined? What about Mississippi? Why havent we heard them screaming Fema was too late? Are we trying to be a little to dependant on our government? Didnt we create this country where the people are stronger and over their government? I dont agree with the movie, but the quote is good. People shouldn't be afraid of their government, Governments should be afraid of their people. -V for Vendetta 2005 I think New Orleans is the perfect example of a disgusting life style that got smashed by disaster and instead of cleaning up their own lives, they scream government and get on all the tv networks. Maybe we are approaching a terrible place, where the government has total control. and once our freedom is gone, we will realize the damage weve done. So this thread is about two topics, the situation of New Orleans, and the Consequences of a Socialist government. Your thoughts please. First of all, define "disgusting lifestyle". Second, I read the entire thread and I am absolutly disgusted with the fact that you seen to have no sympathy for the people of Louisiana! That state is one of the poorest in the country and many of them probably couln't afford homeowners insureance! Many of those homes were passed down from generation to generation, and the majority of those people are not on any kind of Social Assistance and have lost everything and have gotten next to no help from the Government! You talk about New Orleans as a risk, then why is it that if a hurricane hits Florida, they seem to bounce back within a few months? It is the Governments responsibility to ensure the safty of all its citizens, not just the ones that vote for them! The Bush Administration dropped the ball big time on this disaster. I can also promise you that if a catagory 5 huricane hit Texas, they'd be back to normal within a few months. Time and time again that administration has proven it's bias towards the American people, and as for a Social Government, France has one, and they haven't lost any of their freedoms. V is for Vendetta is a movie, don't take it to heart. Some of them did. They have said it. There is a great doc Spike Lee made shown on HBO. It's called when the levee's broke. Yet, All State and those company's aren't giving them anything. They basically are saying "No" or here is 245.00. Then you have alot of people that are working with politician's and companys to buy up the 9th Ward.
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Post by voltage on Sept 16, 2006 13:00:06 GMT -5
Is there vomit in your streets? Do people sit in your streets covered in filth smelling and playing instruments for a some money? Do you have a holiday every year that involves getting drunk parading around town killing and beating each other? Do you have your own burbon street?
Yes, i hate people. Read the thread again. Next to no hope? Last time i check 2,000 dollar FEMA checks are going to citizens as we speak. And a lot of New Orleans citizens went to houston.
Well Since 53% of the population voted for him, i guess he selectively looks at the 53% and sends them checks. personally. Doesnt get more logical than that.
define french freedoms. And if its so wonderful go live in france and let me know.
The bush administration isnt the only thing making desicions. There are other parts of the government, including democrats. We know democrats commit no evil deed so it leaves bush!Screaming Bush did it is exactly what i was trying to prevent from coming into the topic, since its a close minded idea. How can one man be responsible for an entire government? Checks and balances my dear, checks and balances.
I dont take any movie to heart, i quote them sometimes.
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Post by Aaron on Sept 16, 2006 13:20:47 GMT -5
Is there vomit in your streets? Do people sit in your streets covered in filth smelling and playing instruments for a some money? Do you have a holiday every year that involves getting drunk parading around town killing and beating each other? Do you have your own burbon street? Yes, i hate people. Read the thread again. Next to no hope? Last time i check 2,000 dollar FEMA checks are going to citizens as we speak. And a lot of New Orleans citizens went to houston. Well Since 53% of the population voted for him, i guess he selectively looks at the 53% and sends them checks. personally. Doesnt get more logical than that. define french freedoms. And if its so wonderful go live in france and let me know. The bush administration isnt the only thing making desicions. There are other parts of the government, including democrats. We know democrats commit no evil deed so it leaves bush!Screaming Bush did it is exactly what i was trying to prevent from coming into the topic, since its a close minded idea. How can one man be responsible for an entire government? Checks and balances my dear, checks and balances. I dont take any movie to heart, i quote them sometimes. We in Dallas have a bad area. It's called the West End. People get shot. People get robbed, stabed, friggin raped....all types of things. Even a few murders. Everyone has a bad area of town to a certain degree. Oh, also forgot South Dallas. But, that is only if your a whitie. I know that sounds racist but ummm they really don't like white people down there. Also to that is the crapest area to go to school to. Pretty bad gang's and not alot of money. That would be the 9th ward area of Dallas. Oh and Mardi Gra's not just New Orlean's although it is a big thing there. There are always people that are going to take money even free from the government and use it to buy things that are questionable. Why? Beacuse it's human nature and it's just something that is. I don't care if your white,black or Asian. Or what your money income is. Middle, low class or high class. Oh an the homeless do pee in the streets and walk around pretty much like ghosts. Sometimes they try and get money from people which is a crime just so the cops will pick them up and they get a free meal. My Cousin's hubby has one guy they pick up every 3 or 4 days and take him to the county jail. So that way he can get a free meal and at least a hot shower.
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Post by voltage on Sept 16, 2006 13:25:04 GMT -5
Not to be rude Aaron, but im confused at where your coming from. I cant find what your responding to, maybe you could put your responses under my quotes, like i did to rells?
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Post by Aaron on Sept 16, 2006 13:27:18 GMT -5
Not to be rude Aaron, but im confused at where your coming from. I cant find what your responding to, maybe you could put your responses under my quotes, like i did to rells? It's all to the first one
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Post by voltage on Sept 16, 2006 13:30:59 GMT -5
O thank you lol, well do you agree that that is a disgusting lifetyle, or that you have seen the lifestyle where you live? I see that as pretty bad myself.
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Post by Mistress Rell on Sept 16, 2006 18:33:35 GMT -5
Every city has it's bars that spew out drunken patrons. The French Quarter of New Orleans is one of the most famous places on this planet! The Mardi Gras celebration brings in millions of dollars every year and if the citizens of New Orleans aren't complaing about it, why are you?
Florida gets a quick response because Bush's brother is Goveror. Texas would get a quick respons because it's Bush's home state. That isn't logic, it's bias partisan favoritsm. It runs amok in both political parties. Personally I think it should be illegal.
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