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Post by Aaron on Oct 6, 2006 13:16:30 GMT -5
Thanks Aaron, that helps clears some stuff up. Though when I said terms, I meant more like definitions, but what you said covered that enough for me to get a better idea of it. I recently heard the absolute best explaination for why gay men seem more promiscous than straight men. It's not that straight men don't want to sleep around as much as gay men, it's that staight men have to deal with women who most often want monogamy so the straight man can't have all the women he wants. I'm all for not clumping!! Let's not clump! But there's still some clumpage here. Being trapped in the wrong body is an issue with gender identity, not sexual orientation. The two have some very interesting interaction, but they aren't the same. As I undertand trans-, transgendered are people who feel that they have the wrong body while transsexuals are people who have undergone gender reasignment so they can feel that their body and mind match. Okay so if say a woman feels she's more of a male but being "Butch" doesn't help it and she goes through the surgry and still dates and makes love to women? That isn't gay? I thought you said up above that no matter what they can't change sex even with the surgery. Which you are right. They can't. But, they can change there physical selves. Which I think is what they need and want.
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Post by jagggar on Oct 6, 2006 13:38:22 GMT -5
No, it was Volt that said you can't change sex.
I doubt I'm up-to-date on all the PC terms, but last time I heard it explained, people have sex and gender. Sex is what your body's sexual charateristics say you are, male or female. Gender is what you think/feel inside is your role or something, how you identify yourself, man or woman.
And this is where it gets complex. . . . Is sexual orientation based on gender or sex?
As if that wasn't complex enough, we've heard more about a "third sex" and such in recent years and how that a number of babies are born an the doctor makes a choice if they're gunna be male or female.
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Post by voltage on Oct 6, 2006 13:56:02 GMT -5
Yea I said you cant change your orientation. I firmly believe that homosexuality is a mental sickness. Its just as bad as someone who kills for reasons they justify. It just doesnt make sense. Not to mention the attention surrounding the whole issue. "Leave us alone, let us be the way we are" "LOOK AT US WERE GAY!" I mean mixed messages are sent all the time, but these people dont know what they need or even what they want. They just see something that they think will fill their empty heart and end up twisting their minds even further. Thats probably the number 1 cause of becoming 'gay'. Youve either suffered from too much rejection or bad interaction with the opposite sex. And Jagggar, I saw one of these quote 'sex changers' and found that no matter what parts they medically strapped to themselves, they still had personalities that state their true gender. If we were all material, bodies and chemicals, then we wouldnt be having this discussion right now.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 6, 2006 14:13:43 GMT -5
Yea I said you cant change your orientation. I firmly believe that homosexuality is a mental sickness. Its just as bad as someone who kills for reasons they justify. It just doesnt make sense. Not to mention the attention surrounding the whole issue. "Leave us alone, let us be the way we are" "LOOK AT US WERE GAY!" I mean mixed messages are sent all the time, but these people dont know what they need or even what they want. They just see something that they think will fill their empty heart and end up twisting their minds even further. Thats probably the number 1 cause of becoming 'gay'. Youve either suffered from too much rejection or bad interaction with the opposite sex. And Jagggar, I saw one of these quote 'sex changers' and found that no matter what parts they medically strapped to themselves, they still had personalities that state their true gender. If we were all material, bodies and chemicals, then we wouldnt be having this discussion right now. But honestly that is to be expected. You'r a teenager. Yes teen's and such do scream "Validat Me. Validat Me" I remember high school. Everyone does that and everyone wants that. So yeah you would see mix messages in your own world. But, if you meet a 50 year old man or a 40 year old man he doesn't care. I know this one gay male he's a painter and the artists around him use to talk so much crap. But, this guy just wanted to paint and be with his Lover who groomed dogs. I don't see the problem with it. It's not a sickness but I won't win in that arguement so I'll drop it. It's how people are. But, if these people are adults there is a HUGE change. Generally, the don't care about what you think or what you want them to do. When you'r a teen though your so new to sexuality, and to think that you are gay and lesbian can be very hard. Lots think that there is a mental problem with them. When there isn't a mental problem. Just how they are.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 15, 2006 5:25:16 GMT -5
Okay so the running tag line in this discussion has and always will be from Volt and the right that "well they are allowed to be homosexuals". Really? We had a law against anal sex that was against Straight Folk AND Homosexual Folk's alike. Although, people created that law to ban gay sex. Even though straight folk do it to.
Now also too think about it. How much security is it in picking a house and living together. I know a lesbian couple that has been together for about 5 years and they own an apartment together. Now they both paid for it but it's actually in one of there name. It's in the older woman's name. There is a bit of a age gap. They can't really own that house as much as the straight person can. Also too insurence doesn't cover them so they are like poor people. Just fighting there. Unless they are lucky. Also too they have access to seman lab's but in certain states they have to take those that are to "old" and the likelyhood of birthing a baby in the woman's womb is next to nothing. While straight folk get the good sperm, so can make baby's.
Also too if a couple has been together and they get sick and it's been that Partner's job of taking care of them through that sickness..and something really bad happens and they are in the hospital...They have NO say! The family can terminate it and that partner of 12 years or some Really long time years...is dead. That is jacked up don't you think? That you'v been taking care of this person and legally you don't have any say. When it's not been there own family's job? BAsically, because the person is a homosexual.a.nd maybe is shunned by the family? It does happen at times.
So it's not so "Equal" as it probably should be. Yes, people can be homosexuals but if they want a child they have to take older sperm and the chances of it making a baby isn't that great. If they get a house then who is going to own it and take care of it and such because they can't own the house as a man and wife can. So there for one of them has the right's to the place over the other.
Is that all equal to you? Because, these things do happen. And, that couple? They just ended in a nasty break up, and there is a small child in the mix. Before you say "see see the homosexual's can't stay together". I'v met and known more gay couples that are deeply in love with one another that have spent more time together IN LOVE then I have straight people.
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Post by voltage on Oct 15, 2006 8:51:31 GMT -5
Then im afraid your a lost cause Aaron. I saw your myspace the other day, cant say im suprised. The people on that arent exactly 'quietly in love let us live our lives' homoexuals, in fact it seemed more of a problem to them then to me. It seems like everytime I really stae my view you try to hide behind the 'alternative world' crap. Lets get back to the real world. We can all try and bring back anal sex later. In this world there are more things to worry about than who you can have sex with. All you mention in this entire topic is sex. Is that what homsexuality really is? a new sex technique? thats what its sounding like. The reason why gays dont get house priveleges is because there have been more scams then 'real in love' gays trying to get a house. Im not convinced that homosexuality is anything more than a sickness.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 15, 2006 19:00:38 GMT -5
Then im afraid your a lost cause Aaron. I saw your myspace the other day, cant say im suprised. The people on that arent exactly 'quietly in love let us live our lives' homoexuals, in fact it seemed more of a problem to them then to me. It seems like everytime I really stae my view you try to hide behind the 'alternative world' crap. Lets get back to the real world. We can all try and bring back anal sex later. In this world there are more things to worry about than who you can have sex with. All you mention in this entire topic is sex. Is that what homsexuality really is? a new sex technique? thats what its sounding like. The reason why gays dont get house priveleges is because there have been more scams then 'real in love' gays trying to get a house. Im not convinced that homosexuality is anything more than a sickness. Maybe you should re-read my post. I actually didn't really go off on the sexuality. Even though to me that is stupid since there isn't any difference in the bedroom between gay's, lesbian and other alternative people that straight people wouldn't bring in or do per say. So really...that is just me and obviously going to have a thought of your own on it. But, I made that post as to pose a pretty interesting comment. I remmeber you saying or putting it at least to me in a non-shalant way that it's easy, extremly easy to do the more "Kinky" things and to have 3-somes and such. So I'v been sitting here and telling you as an inside into this world that it's not. In fact it's very hard and jelousy is a very key factor that does come into play in these relationships that do do these things. So in attempt to pose something that wasn't necessarly sexual and was something out of I think the norm as to when sexuality and homosexuality has been brought into play on this board...I thought why not post about what some of these couples go through. Why not? It's not a bad thing nor a wrong thing to ask "Is this really a great thing? Should this be allowed/ Is this basically right?! Not morally right but what would you feel if you were put in these people's shoes.". Because to me that is what I think everyone needs to take a step back and ask. What would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot? But, no you did what you normally do..you took one thing and then since I brought up the old anal sex laws that majority of the states had on the books and ran with it. Because, you can. Personally to me you'll never ever fit in my world. You never will. Because, you think it's all doing and dealings in a sexual nature. Which is fine..and dandy. Hey, every relationship has some elements of a sexual nature. But, to you it's all about screwing. That there isn't any love in that sex. It's just sex for the sake of sex. Which you'r wrong. But, I don't expect to ever get you to see other wise. You'r pretty well on that it's "all sex". When actually there isn't anything that a homosexual couple does in the bedroom that I can't go out and find straight people doing in there bedroom.
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Post by voltage on Oct 16, 2006 10:45:51 GMT -5
So now its no just sex, its sex with love. hummm. You mentioned before that Im just a teenager screaming for validation. Now your sounding like the teenager. "its not jsut sex, its sex with love." The shoe isnt on the other foot, and it will never be. Truth is Aaron there is a difference between this alternative thing your pulling and homosexuality. Im sure you would join a 3some, but your not gay. You dont actually feel like having sex with men, but your compassionate for them.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 16, 2006 18:35:33 GMT -5
So now its no just sex, its sex with love. hummm. You mentioned before that Im just a teenager screaming for validation. Now your sounding like the teenager. "its not jsut sex, its sex with love." The shoe isnt on the other foot, and it will never be. Truth is Aaron there is a difference between this alternative thing your pulling and homosexuality. Im sure you would join a 3some, but your not gay. You dont actually feel like having sex with men, but your compassionate for them. And you'r a 15 year old that likes to come off like he understands and knows things bigger and more complicated then he does. But, yet at last he doesn't. The only way he can get his head across is sexual. Yet, he can't really like the sex........because of his CHristianity. That jackes it all up. Would I join in a threesome don't know. Maybe, maybe not. Am I bi or gay? I don't think so. Although I like love and am looking for it and if it's in the shape of a guy over a woman okay. Although don't think that will happen. The thing is Volt you don't really read or listen right. You take things that you can and you run wth them. So this and that has to fall under sex. Because, for you to honestly feel something for you'r "enemy" is dangerous. Why exactly? I don't know maybe to you deep down to feel anything for them makes you gay. And, well you have to be a tough guy don't you? Tough guy's arn't gay. Actually you should go back and read that pot. It's back on the first page. I said that yes there ARE TEENAGERS that use things for validation. But a 30 or 40 or even 60 year old man or woman doesn't really give a dang! They don't care. They just want what is theres. That is all. Am I sympathizer? Yeah, I am. I am for other lifestyles getting what they deserve. Actually, alternative basics can and is in homosexuality. There isn't any difference. But, you don't have the open mind Volt. You like your things this or that. Good..and bad. That is your world, and I hope still to this day that you can maybe open your eyes and look at the world as something more. But, the Chrisitan's probably got to you a bit to young so I doubt you'll ever be able to come out of what they have you in Volt..and that is sad. But, no matter what you'r just some Teenage kid. Who has yet to go out in the world and is at times pretty thingyy. I know too that you won't read this in it's entirty but you will take a few things on this post and bend it and twist it and do what youmust to feel comfortable. Just remember that for whate it's worth you wanted a HONEST thread about homosexuality and why people did what they did. I tried to give you that because seemed like maybe here was the chance. But, you'r not interested. Just interested of putting in your own thoughts and your own opinion's and using other's to show those thoughts and opinion's. I toought could actually honestly say or give ideas on what it's like. I don't see any other person here that has been in the alternative world as long as I have. Not saying I know everything because I don't. But, I have people that are just about everything and I'm cool with that and they are cool with that. Give up Volt. I'll never EVER come out and fully say that us in the alternative world and the homosexual/tran world doesn't have love. That all it is is sex. -LMAO- Good luck but I'll never ever say that. I know better.
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Post by voltage on Oct 19, 2006 23:16:24 GMT -5
And you'r a 15 year old that likes to come off like he understands and knows things bigger and more complicated then he does. But, yet at last he doesn't. The only way he can get his head across is sexual. Yet, he can't really like the sex........because of his CHristianity. That jackes it all up. Yep, same answer when theres no reply, whip out the age and ignore the problem. O yes, im just a screwed up christian. Your problem right now is youll never see anything more in me Aaron, youll just see a screwed up christian. Im a person Aaron, validate me lol. Thats tragic. The bible says to love me enemies, and I know that God hates sin. Loving a person and Loving thier sin is two different things, truth is Aaron if I saw a car hit you tomorrow thatd be pretty hard for me to take, but that doesnt mean im going to jump into the alternative world because my horomones want to. Common sense comes in now and then. It says 'lots of sex with different people isnt nearly as good as sex with one person your wholly dedicated to. Chew on that one if you think im too stupid to know anyhthing. Who knows what your on and on about. Alls I got out of this is another ignored personal insult and something about old people who dont care. Once more, the 15 year old just starting out his life has become an victim of christians, I am astounded at how fast you write me off, we havent gotten to 3 pages yet! Yea theres a difference. I have a dangerous mind, I go to sleep and think about being in other peoples shoes, and im probably the most reasonable christian youll ever meet. But you dont know me, you only know what I say in ciritcal debates on an internet message board, so before you make such a broad statement on my acceptance of anything please wait a few years and meet me in person. Yep, stupid kids. Ran out of ways to explain it havent you? As I said before, they save the age card for when they can't explain. Im pretty uncomfortable right now, I come back from a weekend with an uncle with strep throat, and injured neck on the job and some guy form texas is telling me that my ideas arent valid because of my age and that I have questionable listening skills. Thats about as uncomfortable as it gets. Now see I wanted an honest answer, and you gave me one. Now its my turn to challenge your answer, you to give supporting evidence. Than I challenge you evidence, and give my argument. Than you challenge my argument and close the thread. Welcome to debating Aaron, leave the drama at the door. Dont want you to, just want to make you nod your head and plant a tiny itty bitty voice at the back of your mind, challenging you to do what is right. If you follow that, thats up to you.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 20, 2006 12:12:52 GMT -5
And you'r a 15 year old that likes to come off like he understands and knows things bigger and more complicated then he does. But, yet at last he doesn't. The only way he can get his head across is sexual. Yet, he can't really like the sex........because of his CHristianity. That jackes it all up. Yep, same answer when theres no reply, whip out the age and ignore the problem. O yes, im just a screwed up christian. Your problem right now is youll never see anything more in me Aaron, youll just see a screwed up christian. Im a person Aaron, validate me lol. Thats tragic. The bible says to love me enemies, and I know that God hates sin. Loving a person and Loving thier sin is two different things, truth is Aaron if I saw a car hit you tomorrow thatd be pretty hard for me to take, but that doesnt mean im going to jump into the alternative world because my horomones want to. Common sense comes in now and then. It says 'lots of sex with different people isnt nearly as good as sex with one person your wholly dedicated to. Chew on that one if you think im too stupid to know anyhthing. Who knows what your on and on about. Alls I got out of this is another ignored personal insult and something about old people who dont care. Once more, the 15 year old just starting out his life has become an victim of christians, I am astounded at how fast you write me off, we havent gotten to 3 pages yet! Yea theres a difference. I have a dangerous mind, I go to sleep and think about being in other peoples shoes, and im probably the most reasonable christian youll ever meet. But you dont know me, you only know what I say in ciritcal debates on an internet message board, so before you make such a broad statement on my acceptance of anything please wait a few years and meet me in person. Yep, stupid kids. Ran out of ways to explain it havent you? As I said before, they save the age card for when they can't explain. Im pretty uncomfortable right now, I come back from a weekend with an uncle with strep throat, and injured neck on the job and some guy form texas is telling me that my ideas arent valid because of my age and that I have questionable listening skills. Thats about as uncomfortable as it gets. Now see I wanted an honest answer, and you gave me one. Now its my turn to challenge your answer, you to give supporting evidence. Than I challenge you evidence, and give my argument. Than you challenge my argument and close the thread. Welcome to debating Aaron, leave the drama at the door. Dont want you to, just want to make you nod your head and plant a tiny itty bitty voice at the back of your mind, challenging you to do what is right. If you follow that, thats up to you. I'v never said anything about having sex with multiples is better or worse then having it with one person you love. Actually you HAVE TO LOVE the person you are with in order to bring in another person. That is what I'v said. But, once again you don't listen nor do you read very well. In fact you always skim over that. Volt to tell you the truth you survive VERY well in what I call "Voltage's world". Where there was Christianity and Morality...and black and white and no grey. And, once Volt you get out of that world or things change you are ready to pounce and jump and do whatever you can to go after the other person. Because, heaven forbid they do it or think it or whatever. That is what I think honestly, and I know you'r not going to think that way but whatever. I don't care. And, go ahead plant the "morality" seed in me Volt. I'm pretty sure I do have a sense of Moral's. Just that they are different from your's. And if your going to try and plant a seed of "hellfire and damnation" I assure you I know KNOW what all of that is. I have at times *at humorus times* running through my head. But, I don't care. I'v stoped paying attention the hellfire and damnation long, long time ago. Because, I'v grown up Volt and have realized that no matter what I say or do I'm going to hell. And since I am I'm happy and proud of it. I'v even got a spot picked out down there for me when I go. And you don't like it when you'r age is brought in? Well I'm 21 and while I haven't seen the world I'v been through alot more then you have. I'v had to beg and pled the government for money so I can keep a roof over my head. I'v had to live on 600 a month. Have you done that before Volt? Has your family lived like that in this day and age? Because guess what Volt it's not easy and it's not exactly great either. 600 a month will maybe pay rent and get yourself a few grocieres let alone the other's. I'v had to pay doctor bill's and since I have no medical insurance guess what? I get slamed with huge bills. But, you know what that is like. that is what I'm saying Volt. You don't know that much about the world or surviving or living in lifestyles and how hard it is. You accuse me of writting you off as a jacked up christian? Well you'v already written off those that are different including gays and lesbian's as senile and messed up people. People that haven't seen the light, as you have. And, if only they would open there eyes to the Lord Jesus Christ everything would be better. That is how you act Volt. That is why I say you work very well in you'r own world..and that is why when I read your posts and yes at times I get upset. But, I remember this is a 15 year old, and he's got a Long LONG way to go in life. Oh and the whole honest answer thing? I'v delt with that befoer. You didn't want an honest answer...you just wanted to say that they and people like that are insaine. You didn't want an honest answer because you weren't even going to honestly listen. Because, it's a sin and immoral and those people Can't have feelings about another one that is pure..besides a sexual need. So you are to closed minded to really want an honest answer or an honest anything.
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Post by voltage on Oct 20, 2006 12:23:41 GMT -5
I'v never said anything about having sex with multiples is better or worse then having it with one person you love. Actually you HAVE TO LOVE the person you are with in order to bring in another person. That is what I'v said. But, once again you don't listen nor do you read very well. In fact you always skim over that. Yes I dnt listen, now continue on. You still havent replied on the grey thread, so your argument is in vain as long as you show no evidence for your greyness. That last part I didnt understand, you appear upset. [qoute] And, go ahead plant the "morality" seed in me Volt. I'm pretty sure I do have a sense of Moral's. Just that they are different from your's. And if your going to try and plant a seed of "hellfire and damnation" I assure you I know KNOW what all of that is. I have at times *at humorus times* running through my head. But, I don't care. I'v stoped paying attention the hellfire and damnation long, long time ago. Because, I'v grown up Volt and have realized that no matter what I say or do I'm going to hell. And since I am I'm happy and proud of it. I'v even got a spot picked out down there for me when I go. [/quote] Yep thats what I do, I go to the first person who says they exist to challenge others ideas and challenge them the most. Most of the time youll find out that the challengers dont do well challenged. And im not preachin here, im trying to be an individual but no matter what I do im nothing to you but a meany christian. That last comment is cute, what are you in junior high? Thats life, deal with it. Your 21, a couple years out of highschool. Not exactly a huge database of experience, so dont pull that liberal age card. Youve already establishe this Aaron, but you must keep pressing it because youve gone into a corner.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 21, 2006 11:20:13 GMT -5
you know whats going to be hilarious? Is when you Volt get a g/f and you find out all your lil turn on's and quirks and someone finds it disgusting. Which I know someone in the world will. I don't care even if they are gay or have a three-some or simply any other thing. Can just be a normal thing.
But, that is the thing that will be the sight to see Volt. It'll be the sight to see because in that moment in time you will be the same as a gay person Volt. You'll be the disgusting pervert. The man that wants to rape people and do harm to people. Yet, you'll probably love the person you do have intimate relations with. Probably love them very, very deeply. Same as I know countless couples..and Myself. But, since I'm alternative and there for in the same bracket as a homosexual I'm to stupid to know what true love is.
Yet, they won't care. They won't care because they know you better then you know yourself and what is best for you.
Don't listen to me volt. After all I'm just 21. But, I honest to God think that even the Adults on this board will agree with me in saying that there is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, change in a person that is 21..and a person that is 15.
After all what do I know? I'm just the liberal. But, you won't listen Volt. You won't because you'v got a pretty nice ego there and pretty condecending. And, those things won't let you listen. They won't let you because you know the answers of the world. You have them all Volt. And if ONLY, THEY would listen! Listen to you and you'r Chrisitans..t.he world be such a better place. Gay's and homosexual's would get a shrink because after all they need it. Yet, it seems they are dumb idiots because they don't know what true love is. They have no idea. And, please don't shout and respond to this by shouting "see, see just another proof that you see me as nothing more then a bad christian". Don't spout that crap because we all know that you would LOVE to have the Christianity and Christians in political and economical power. don't lie.
YET A 15 year old DOES! A 15 year old lil boy. Who probably still looks at girl's but never really went on a date yet. But, this 15 year old knows a heck of a lot more then this 21 year old. Obviously, way more then I can handle.
Volt, you'r ego and your condecinding attitutde that is in you isn't really good for debating. Just going after and using cliche's. You read what people say and yet ignore the rest. You'r exactly like a Republican. Because, you take things and put in things that weren't there or irgnore things so that you have a comeback. You'v done it in countless threads. Oh and you want proof? Why not take a peek around this board. And NOT just you and I threads but other people's as well. Say other members.
Yet, I'm just the 21 year old. What do I know about things?
PS- Please don't say deal with it. Because it gets me in a mood of angry and ticked off. Now yeah I realize probably something I have to work through which I am and at the moment I'm kinda failing at. But, whatever. Please don't say deal with it or imply it. Because truthfully I don't have to deal wiht anything and nothing at all. Unless Iwant to. I'll deal when I want to. Not when a 15 year old or a 180 year old person on there death bed tells me too.
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Post by voltage on Oct 21, 2006 17:02:21 GMT -5
you know whats going to be hilarious? Is when you Volt get a g/f and you find out all your lil turn on's and quirks and someone finds it disgusting. Which I know someone in the world will. I don't care even if they are gay or have a three-some or simply any other thing. Can just be a normal thing. Since im young, thinking about marrying or having intimate relations is not on my mind. Perhaps when I grow up, which isnt going tobe soon as you keep emphasizing in your posts. And who said im a pervert? who said I like to rape? did I? I think not. Didnt say you didnt understand what love is, just said that homosexuality is a twisted view of 'love'. Love is undenying compassion and care for someone which surpasses all other feelings. Its not just who your glad to have sex with. You dont know me. So quit filling in for all those other people who supposedly do. Alright? Yep there is, dont doubt that for one second. However, there are some people who are 50 and still act like children. Sitting here endlessly debating that I dont know anything and I have no right to state my opinion with meaning is not exactly the most mature form of debating. You want to prove your point? quit saying your better and much more intelligent and simply state your argument. Any person with common sense will see one person trying to match intelligence and getting mad, while the other is simply more intelligent and stating their views. Your position right now isnt a good one, since your last few posts are working on degrading me based on age. By the way, my age is a right that proboards gives me to hide, so get off your high horse and let me have that right. This world is horrible and it will never be a better place. No one can improve that. I dont enjoy going to bed at night thinking that somebody else out there cant find the peace that I have. But you wont ask me about that, youll only attack, degrade, and rip me apart because im a 'christian'. And dont start with that ego argument either. You sit here posting just like me, saying im close minded, saying I dont understand. How are we any different? You wanna know the difference between you and me? I see that and I recognize that. Youll be happy to argue about it for the next few pages though. Who cres about politics, you wanna discuss spiritual matters those far surpass this government, and they will last longer. Again, I ask why you persist on acting like a child? Im sitting here trying to have a discussion with a person wiser than myself and they reply 'you've never dated girls!'. Im not going to answer this, since my dating history has nothing to do with this argument. So first i know less than you, then im condescending? Which is it Aaron? A good debator repeats his argument if key evidences were missed. If they arent repeated, then they werent strong enough for anyone to repeat. I reply to the recurring arguments, not the inactive ones. You have much more experience in this world than I do, and you have a better education. Unless you want to? So you dont have to deal with your rent unless you want to? You dont want to deal with your life unless you want to? Aaron, it sounds more like your having an issue with yourself than anyone else. You direct this at me when you should look at a mirror. Now everybodys gonna mark me as the biggest hypocrite on the forum, but I think its worse of me not mentioning it. Dont be like me Aaron, dont ignore your personal flaws.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 22, 2006 10:34:40 GMT -5
No never said that you liked to rate or were a pervert. I'm just clearly making the fact that when you do become older Volt you'll be no different then the rest of us. Because, someone's disgusted when it comes down to sex and some of th things that happen. So in a way you'll be the perverted one and the one that is the horrible one. The one that they will want to lock away in a tower and never let them see there children ever. Just like they do against me and the gay's. . Enjoy. And that was to your first reply. I thought I'd make it a bit more clearer for you. I don't know how to make it anymore plainer then that. And your whole personal flaws crap arguement screams "Find Christ. Find Christ..dear Brother". No. Yes, I admit that it isn't very good that I can't stand the saying "Just deal with it". Am I trying to get over that? Ehhhh I'v been doing that since I was 18. But, now that he's dead. I'm just sad that I didn't place him there. Yet, yeah I'm working through it but it's taken me years and it'll always be something.
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