levoni
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Post by levoni on Jan 18, 2007 23:25:07 GMT -5
I personally am all for gay marriage.
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Post by heavyweaponsmaster on Jan 19, 2007 20:24:51 GMT -5
I think gay marriage is wrong. But then again when your right handed and you see someone writing with their left you think that thats something hard to do and its weird.
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Post by levoni on Jan 21, 2007 5:37:00 GMT -5
Do you think gay relationships are wrong, or just gay marriage? There's a big difference. Personally... I know for a fact that most gay people are *not* just into sleeping around or what have you. They form relationships (and yes, true, bad stuff happens in gay relationships as well, and there's always the idiots and the cheaters and the abusive people... but proportionately it'd be about the same as with straight people) and fall in love just like straight people do, so why shouldn't they be able to be together as a couple... It's just sooo sad to hear about couples who have been together for 20 years, one of them gets sick, and the other one can't help out with medical issues, or if he/she dies, and because they're not 'officially' a couple in terms of paperwork, the other can't inherit, or the parents can swoop in and take over, that sort of thing. It's just heartbreaking. That's the difference between marriage and defacto relationship. And, why shouldn't they be allowed to celebrate publically their dedication to each other (I'm not saying it should be in a church, that'd just be stupid in most cases).
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Post by Aaron on Jan 21, 2007 10:09:17 GMT -5
Do you think gay relationships are wrong, or just gay marriage? There's a big difference. Personally... I know for a fact that most gay people are *not* just into sleeping around or what have you. They form relationships (and yes, true, bad stuff happens in gay relationships as well, and there's always the idiots and the cheaters and the abusive people... but proportionately it'd be about the same as with straight people) and fall in love just like straight people do, so why shouldn't they be able to be together as a couple... It's just sooo sad to hear about couples who have been together for 20 years, one of them gets sick, and the other one can't help out with medical issues, or if he/she dies, and because they're not 'officially' a couple in terms of paperwork, the other can't inherit, or the parents can swoop in and take over, that sort of thing. It's just heartbreaking. That's the difference between marriage and defacto relationship. And, why shouldn't they be allowed to celebrate publically their dedication to each other (I'm not saying it should be in a church, that'd just be stupid in most cases). There are Christian gay people. They don't believe in what there oponote's believe in but to be honest the people that curse them in the Christian world don't all believe in every denomination of Christianity either. It's not like a Baptist is going to be a Catholic one weekend and then a Penacostal then next.
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Post by levoni on Jan 21, 2007 18:58:57 GMT -5
yeah, I know there are Christian ones. But in many cases, most churches don't like them. I'm not saying that the churches should be forced to recognise a homosexual marriage. If they choose to, then, that's fantastic!
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Post by Aaron on Jan 22, 2007 16:48:38 GMT -5
Yeah. It's the interesting thing I'v found out. Having been around and into things the church shun's and such. And even inside the lifestlyes. So many people hover and gather at these ideals and they scream it out loud and proud but if it changes it can very much shock them. Kinda sad at times. But were all guilty of it in some ways.
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Post by dogbite on Jan 25, 2007 22:45:05 GMT -5
the reason why they havnt allowed gay marriage thus yet is because its against what they believe god believed and its also written weirdly in the constitution i believe but i believe if 2 people love eachother to give eachother to eachother for their complete life then yes they should be able to get married no ifs ands or buts about it There actually isn't anything in the constitution stating anything about marriage. As far as the sexe's go. It's the Conservatives/Republican's that want to put it there. Some states have done it and some haven't. -shrugs- With in the next 20-30 years it'll happen. This bout of Conservatism isn't going to last very long. We as a society get REALLY Out there and then we get really tight on how things are. Then we get lose again -shrugs-. i thought in one of the doctrines of some written big huge law or the bible it was written as not being acceptable
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Post by Aaron on Jan 25, 2007 23:21:20 GMT -5
Im against the whole gay marrage thingy. Im paranoid when IM around gay people in life. Although I will admit, I became good friends with a gay guy but at the time I didnt know he was gay. I didnt see the signs untill later on. I was woundering why the ladies would always talk to him more and all but I didnt care. Then one day he came up to me and we where talking and somewhere throughout the conversation he told me he's gay and I was shocked. He showed me that not all gay people are frisky, and thats how I always had thought gays where. good that you'v seen other sides and all. Yet, also may I ask what would be the big deal if a guy was interested in you? I mean what is the worst thing that could happen? It's not like he is going to come right up to you and kiss you or act towards you. I can imagine that he would be pretty standoffish and not be forth coming with it. But, what is the worst that can happen? Not much. So some dude likes you. Just tell him your straight. He has to deal with that. that is the most negative I can think of. There actually isn't anything in the constitution stating anything about marriage. As far as the sexe's go. It's the Conservatives/Republican's that want to put it there. Some states have done it and some haven't. -shrugs- With in the next 20-30 years it'll happen. This bout of Conservatism isn't going to last very long. We as a society get REALLY Out there and then we get really tight on how things are. Then we get lose again -shrugs-. i thought in one of the doctrines of some written big huge law or the bible it was written as not being acceptable No not Federal level. In some states yes there is a ban on gay marriage. The Supreme Court our highest court is really not touching Gay Marriage and is leaving it up to the States. And, also too yes it is in the bible. Or, the deal that they love to scream at gays and such. It's in Davitacus? (Sp) But, in that same area it also states that a man shall not lay with a woman on her period. While there are alot of teenagers here there are adults like me who slept with my g/f who was on period and well there are mom's here that slept with there husband's. Also too it says you shall not lie with a sheep. Yest he be killed and the sheep. Which come on? The sheep looking back going "bahhh bahhh nooo noooo". What the shep come on to you? Oh, and this is great. The other part in that section says that basically you are to obey your parents unless you be put to death. So if your parent says blow your brains out.....better do it...or you'r dead. I brought that other into really show you that while yes it's there how much of it do you want to take literally?
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Post by levoni on Jan 26, 2007 19:50:14 GMT -5
^ the religious thing doesn't work so well in Australia, because heaps of people aren't religious. It goes up and down depending on what area you're in, and the age of the people and that, but in the school my mum's teaching at, only 15% of the kids are registered as having a religion. (Not just christianity). I know that lots of people just put in "Anglican" out of habit, even if they don't go to church. But people have been caring less about keeping up appearances in the past decade or so. So, although more than 15% would have some sort of belief system, only 15% decided to write it on their forms. That does have a big impact on things like policies on gay marriage. Even though we still haven't got it here.
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Post by Aaron on Jan 26, 2007 19:55:20 GMT -5
^ the religious thing doesn't work so well in Australia, because heaps of people aren't religious. It goes up and down depending on what area you're in, and the age of the people and that, but in the school my mum's teaching at, only 15% of the kids are registered as having a religion. (Not just christianity). Same here. That is why it's nice being in alternative lifestyles...and in the big City. People don't care. Where as if you get out ot where I use to live you may actually have a visit from the KKK. Which is still very muc alive and prospering in the small town. Sure they will really get mad in the coming years. That and our History is "People came over for religious freedom". Which is partially true and partially false. People come over because of the fact the Government didn't like them. And, well there was already people here in America when they did come over. No..not Indians. Talking about other groups. But, the legand is everyone thta came over here was here for Religious and Christianity. Even though the Spainiards came for things not religious.
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