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Post by drake on May 3, 2006 16:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by Enchant on Jul 12, 2006 14:17:53 GMT -5
I read this on anouther forum and since it was relevent to this topic, I though I would post it. It was interesting to see that I wasn't the only one who had curiousity about her....
....when reading it, I never even thought about the creation on Lillith...She was made like that of Adam, where as eve was made"of" Adam. Was Lillith the first womento try for women rights? Equality?
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Post by Aaron on Jul 13, 2006 0:06:54 GMT -5
Soundds like Gor mentalitys. Or more kinda..has pylosaphies *know mis-spelled* of alternative lifestyle beliefe. Gor is short for Gorean which basically is r/p..which of it's self is an offshoot of BDSM. Basically some in these groups think and feel that since born a man that they are the "Dominant" species and women should be subservent to women. I'v even read on one board *and I think and find all of this to be a load of crock. While am into it I don't necessarly buy into this. Nor will I ever* that women by law of God should be subservent and if a man or male wishes to be it's more like a republican view on gays and lesbian. Like the gates of hell opened up. Really wierd stuff. But this does feed into what Enchant is saying. That this is where the whole thing that Male's are more Tarzan *and still are to this very day* and women are more Jane. That no matter what you do...sexually based alternative lifestyles or just plain jan and tom...still going to have elements of these type of thinkings. No matter how caveman you think or feel it is. Which the first paragraph I'm sorry but I don't think I should be allowed to treat a woman lower then dirt which some in gor do believe. Also to note too that just like these groups there are women that I would say is more Women's Lib just extreme. That since Women is what they were born as they are the more Dominant species and meant to be the True One's to Lead and such over the men. Doesn't help that only 4 percent are actually totally Dominant. Interesting lil thing though. But over all I think that does fit society. Even though men are definetly more "sensitive" there is still that Tarzan mantality. Where he has to prove himself that he can be a man..a manly man. Maybe that is where we got it from or that is the story we tell that answers that part of it. While I don't bring in that part of Myself on the board and never really planned to. As it's just Me being Me and well not like something I'm really wanting to discuss. Thought it was interesting how that really kinda speaks what I'v run into and have seen and read really. Yeah she could have been for women's lib. Although I don't know. I don't know if deep down women really want the guys to open as much as say. I mean..here is the thing that I'v learned and I'm not saying this is right or wrong. heck when it comes down to it about whatever you want to do as long as safe. But, society breeds women as being the more subservent to the Male's. BDSM is stripping down a person and laying what is there. Now for Me it's both sides. But, very few are like Me and there are a ton of subbie women. So really while Lillith was wanting free lib. Do you think in todays era women would want that? Or could flip the coin and also say that women would want the chose as in bdsm women choose to serve. No one makes them and it's there own doing. If someone wants to do it they can. It's there gift. Very few are even slaves. There for being equals. Which I think no matter what women are. Men and women need each other. Maybe not as life partners or mates but we do help one another out. Each thinks about seperate issues. Which I personally feel that is how it works. Women are equal yet they choose to be the "subbie" to such and such. By being subbie doesn't mean they are a very *friendly* person or other names. Okays enough of the bdsm thinking lol. Like I said though never really meant to bring in bdsm in here. Although talking of Doming and subbiing, and the way of thinking. Kinda leads to it for Me. Hopefully have said something good and that didn't cross a line or barrier. Since especially say that some of you know of it...I wouldn't promote doing it.
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Post by Mistress Rell on Jul 13, 2006 21:24:29 GMT -5
I tried to click that link Enchant and it made my computer go wonky.
It doesn't surprise me that the myth of Lilith is so unknown. I have never heard of it until now and it makes you wonder about other stories in the bible that have been interpreted to show that the male is dominant and that God wanted it that way.
I personally believe that the snake that tempted Eve might be just a representation of something else....
...but discussing that would be off topic.
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Post by Aaron on Jul 14, 2006 8:15:03 GMT -5
hmmm maybe next discussion -shrugs-. There still is alot of the old world ways of thinking. There still very much alive and you can probably link the beliefs back to Adam nad Eve.
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