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Post by voltage on Oct 20, 2006 12:29:16 GMT -5
Who are you voting for and why?  |
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Post by Shooshoo on Oct 20, 2006 12:52:10 GMT -5
Well we haven't got any elections on just now here in England, my family are staunch Labor so I suppose I would be voting for the existing government when the next election comes around. I personally like Tony Blair and will be sad when he leaves office next May/June, I'm not a huge fan of Gordon Brown his supposed successor, I find him far too dour and serious so I'm hoping that there might be a leadership challenge....one party I will defiantly NOT be voting for is the Conservatives.... they only look after those with money and always make the ordinary working class Joe pay through the nose..
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Post by Aaron on Oct 21, 2006 9:52:24 GMT -5
Well we haven't got any elections on just now here in England, my family are staunch Labor so I suppose I would be voting for the existing government when the next election comes around. I personally like Tony Blair and will be sad when he leaves office next May/June, I'm not a huge fan of Gordon Brown his supposed successor, I find him far too dour and serious so I'm hoping that there might be a leadership challenge....one party I will defiantly NOT be voting for is the Conservatives.... they only look after those with money and always make the ordinary working class Joe pay through the nose.. I think any conservative that is the one thing people will complain about. The fact that Conservatives are more for money then lil people. But, it's the lil people in small town's that go for them. Since they are the one's that generally have "morals". Yet, they are generally the biggest freaks in the closet. Kinda interesting lol. Probably democrate. But, that isn't shocking to anyone on the board nor is it shocking to you Volt. so yeah. Dem. Although something you might find shocking is the fact that I may go for Kinky for Texas Governer. Don't know. Haven't totally looked up what there about yet. So don't know. But, no I won't be voting for Republican governer. He's allowed my city of Dallas to become the number 1 drug captial in the USA..and yet when this happened he was on the gay/lesbian compaign. Yeah, that is going to really help. Way to stop those drug cartel's. That and he couldn't even stop raiding down in south Texas....how is he suppost to build the wall and keep illegals out? Which unlikly there would be that big fence. We'd fight for 10 years over what to paint it lol. So no won't be going for Perry. |
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Post by voltage on Oct 21, 2006 16:42:34 GMT -5
Shes in the UK dude, political parties arent the same.
Im sure that the most mature perspective you can conjur up is go democrat and never republican. And you call me close minded.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 22, 2006 10:24:38 GMT -5
You don't like Dem's I don't like Republicans? -shrugs- Who cares.
Yes, but if she's saying that conservatives in her land are for rich people. Hmmmm that sounds an AWFUL like alot of the people I'v chatted to and know that say the same thing about the Republican's......Who ARE the more Conservative's. At least that is what they pride themselves into.
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Post by voltage on Oct 22, 2006 15:41:07 GMT -5
Man I still dont know what your talkin about. You dont live in Europe, you dont have any idea what its like over there. Did you know that a liberal over here is an extremists democrat, but a liberal over there means in favor of liberty? They arent the same buddy, not by a longshot. Same with 'conservatives' there and conservatives here. Even I refuse to believe that you, at mighty 21, know all about the political situations overseas.
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Post by jagggar on Oct 22, 2006 16:06:27 GMT -5
I don't know who. I don't know why.
Last time I voted, I didn't even know who all the people on the ballot were. I picked one guy because I liked the sound of his name better.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 23, 2006 13:26:03 GMT -5
Man I still dont know what your talkin about. You dont live in Europe, you dont have any idea what its like over there. Did you know that a liberal over here is an extremists democrat, but a liberal over there means in favor of liberty? They arent the same buddy, not by a longshot. Same with 'conservatives' there and conservatives here. Even I refuse to believe that you, at mighty 21, know all about the political situations overseas. Good Lord. Calm down Volt. I was just saying that some here would say that the conservatives are for money and power here and sounds like it's there. Now if you want to get all bent up and out of shape. Fine....but I don't think I'd be the only one to read what was said in that post and be the only that comes up with that thought. Fine. if it makes you happy. I'm in dreamworld....laaaallaaaallaaaaaa... googgoooo daddda...goooggoodaddda. There that make you feel any better? |
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Post by zionofficer on Oct 28, 2006 17:58:14 GMT -5
Man I still dont know what your talkin about. You dont live in Europe, you dont have any idea what its like over there. Did you know that a liberal over here is an extremists democrat, but a liberal over there means in favor of liberty? They arent the same buddy, not by a longshot. Same with 'conservatives' there and conservatives here. Even I refuse to believe that you, at mighty 21, know all about the political situations overseas. Good Lord. Calm down Volt. I was just saying that some here would say that the conservatives are for money and power here and sounds like it's there. Now if you want to get all bent up and out of shape. Fine....but I don't think I'd be the only one to read what was said in that post and be the only that comes up with that thought. Fine. if it makes you happy. I'm in dreamworld....laaaallaaaallaaaaaa... googgoooo daddda...goooggoodaddda. There that make you feel any better? I agree with you on this one Aaron. A sheep is still a sheep even in a wolves clothing if you know what I mean. Conservatives tend to vote Republican most of the time. And even though I am a supporter of the Republican party, it does tend to do more in favor of the rich, whereas the Democrats are more in favor of the poor. A good example of this though, is to look very far on the right and left of the political spectrum. If you go to the far left you find Communism. Communism is (or at least is supost to be) the party of the common man. It is collective, where everyone works for the good of everyone else. Even with the Democratic party in power you tend to see more state ran programs. If you look to the far right, you find Fascism. Fascism is pretty much where the gov't is one big corporation. The rich people get ahead while the poor suffered and are forced into military service, etc. |
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Post by voltage on Oct 30, 2006 10:23:58 GMT -5
I agree with you on this one Aaron. A sheep is still a sheep even in a wolves clothing if you know what I mean. Conservatives tend to vote Republican most of the time. And even though I am a supporter of the Republican party, it does tend to do more in favor of the rich, whereas the Democrats are more in favor of the poor. A good example of this though, is to look very far on the right and left of the political spectrum. If you go to the far left you find Communism. Communism is (or at least is supost to be) the party of the common man. It is collective, where everyone works for the good of everyone else. Even with the Democratic party in power you tend to see more state ran programs. If you look to the far right, you find Fascism. Fascism is pretty much where the gov't is one big corporation. The rich people get ahead while the poor suffered and are forced into military service, etc. But are conservatives truly extreme? An extremist evolutionist supports genocide, since the weak need to die and the strong survive. Chew on that. |
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Post by Aaron on Oct 30, 2006 16:39:57 GMT -5
I agree with you on this one Aaron. A sheep is still a sheep even in a wolves clothing if you know what I mean. Conservatives tend to vote Republican most of the time. And even though I am a supporter of the Republican party, it does tend to do more in favor of the rich, whereas the Democrats are more in favor of the poor. A good example of this though, is to look very far on the right and left of the political spectrum. If you go to the far left you find Communism. Communism is (or at least is supost to be) the party of the common man. It is collective, where everyone works for the good of everyone else. Even with the Democratic party in power you tend to see more state ran programs. If you look to the far right, you find Fascism. Fascism is pretty much where the gov't is one big corporation. The rich people get ahead while the poor suffered and are forced into military service, etc. But are conservatives truly extreme? An extremist evolutionist supports genocide, since the weak need to die and the strong survive. Chew on that. Yes. Go watch Jesus Camp or any church program on tv.  That is extreme ain't it? ANd yeah yeah. I know I know. The ACLU is extreme for the left. But, to me they just trying to give everyone a say and make sure they have a say. Even if that say is not what I agree with. |
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Post by jagggar on Oct 30, 2006 19:02:36 GMT -5
Both the right and left have their extremists. The left extremists look more extreme to those on the right and the right extremists look more extreme to those on the left.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 30, 2006 22:50:38 GMT -5
Basically in a nut shell they are both extreme. Right's got the religius nut bags of all shape and sizes and the left's got people that want to take there views into extremes. Both though are wrong and really do have no real hope. Although, it doesn't mean that a politician won't come along and exploit those extremes to get elected or start whatever the want.
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Post by voltage on Oct 31, 2006 11:48:01 GMT -5
Basically in a nut shell they are both extreme. Right's got the religius nut bags of all shape and sizes and the left's got people that want to take there views into extremes. Both though are wrong and really do have no real hope. Although, it doesn't mean that a politician won't come along and exploit those extremes to get elected or start whatever the want. Rofl. When your talking about extremes, and you really want to sound anything but biased, try talking objectively. Whoever said they wanted to stay close to communism should read about the Cold War, and then should go pick up a history book on China. After that if you still want to become part of the 'peoples government', go for it. But its not gonna start in America. Anybody who feels fascism is safer, go read about nazi germany, the past two world wars, and a personal thing on hitler. If you still want to base your political orientation on just that, go for it. Its not going to start in America. Point is its pretty silly to think about something as abstract as political extremes to determine your orientation, more or less thinking (if I ride in the plane ill die a quick death, but if I ride in a boat ill drown). This is a problem, since it rules out the future. What is the future of the country? So far weve had quite a bit of political mudlsinging, and empty pledges on both sides, but where is the country going? You cant base your desicions on the extremists of the situation, youll find out that either side thinks the other is completely extremist, and becuase of this we get guys like me and Aaron on here ranting at each other day after day and not listening to one thing the other is saying. Just do me a favor, and think before you vote? Its not elections for communism or fascism, its election for republican or democrat. So think. |
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Post by jagggar on Oct 31, 2006 12:22:35 GMT -5
And this is why it's a problem. The election is so often put in terms of Republican-Democrat.
How about people vote for canadates instead of a party?
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